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We're crossing our fingers and hoping ASP.NET MVC will have a \"go live\" license before we enter the public beta.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Joel describes the way they use \u003Ca href=\"http://www.finalbuilder.com/finalbuilder.aspx\">FinalBuilder\u003C/a>, and I describe my brief dabblings with MSBuild.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>On the strange sentiment of \"I agree with everything you've written, except..\"\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Why does \u003Ca href=\"https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/002-8631162-3447259\">Amazon's affiliate program\u003C/a> work, when Fog Creek's Fogbugz affiliate program did not?\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>How \u003Ca href=\"http://www.dashes.com/anil/2006/12/matt-haughey-beat-google.html\">Google Answers failed because they paid people\u003C/a>.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Is it possible to \u003Ca href=\"http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/05/we-specialize-i.html\">\"specialize in being a generalist\"\u003C/a>? Does that even mean anything? Expressing our general affection for Seth Godin, while acknowledging that he is, after all, a marketing weasel. But a really, really good one!\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>An example of specialization in action: how Larry O'Brien's single post on programming Sabre \u003Ca href=\"http://www.knowing.net/PermaLink,guid,e5aadb98-0a69-44e3-94cb-0afa583b0c0e.aspx\">generated the majority of his income.\u003C/a>\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>How I personally wish the \"begins-with-www or doesn't-begin-with-www\" debate would just \u003Cem>go away\u003C/em>. Perhaps \u003Ca href=\"http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001109.html\">some humor will help\u003C/a>? Probably not.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>A final coda on Joel's question to our audience about password management.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>On \u003Ca href=\"http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001011.html\">the manifold evils of focus stealing\u003C/a>, and our very favorite home page of all time: \u003Ca href=\"http://about:blank\">about:blank\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003C/ul>\u003Cp>We also answered the following listener questions:\u003C/p>\n\u003Col>\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>\u003Cstrong>John Topley\u003C/strong>: \"What are your thoughts on affiliate programs, such as \u003Ca href=\"http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/1063-launch-announcing-the-new-37signals-affiliate-program-with-recurring-income\">the new 37signals affiliate program\u003C/a>?\"\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>\u003Cstrong>Matthew Glidden\u003C/strong>: \"What do you think of Seth Godin's \u003Ca href=\"http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/05/we-specialize-i.html\">We specialize in everything\u003C/a>?\"\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Cstrong>Jim McKeeth\u003C/strong>: \"A reproducible way of generating a secure password: \u003Ca href=\"http://passwordmaker.org\">passwordmaker.org\u003C/a>\"\u003C/li>\n\u003C/ol>\u003Cp>If you'd like to submit a question to be answered in our next episode,  \u003C/p>\n\u003Cp>record an audio file (90 seconds or less) and mail it to \u003Ca href=\"mailto:podcast@stackoverflow.com\">podcast@stackoverflow.com\u003C/a>. 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