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(She's impressed with the legitimacy and professionalism of our podcast setup.) She's a cofounder of \u003Ca href=\"http://www.girldevelopit.com/\">Girl Develop It\u003C/a>, a system of low-cost software development classes geared toward women (but guys are welcome too). It's judgement-free, for total beginners who want to take their first few steps into the world of software development.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Sara recently left her role as CTO of \u003Ca href=\"http://www.levo.com/\">Levo League\u003C/a> to focus on getting Girl Develop It's board and 501(c)(3) status together (Levo League is a professional community for Generation Y women, and it is awesome).\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>This fall has been the \u003Ca href=\"http://sarajchipps.com/speaking\">Sara Chipps world tour\u003C/a> - she's been traveling all around to talk about hacking hardware with JavaScript. Check out \u003Ca href=\"http://nodebots.io/\">NodeBots\u003C/a> and \u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/rwaldron/johnny-five\">Johnny-five\u003C/a>. Sara, David, and Michael are all big nerds about hacking hardware. Check out \u003Ca href=\"http://rbrtr.com/post/44142337865/dorby-the-doorbot\">Dorby the DoorBot\u003C/a> (\u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/LevoLeague/dorby\">github\u003C/a>) and the \u003Ca href=\"http://developers.levoleague.com/post/39445070833/open-sourcing-our-arduino-powered-christmas-sweater\">Christmas sweater that talks to the internet\u003C/a>.\u003C/p>\n\u003Cul>\u003Cli>Relevant: \u003Ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYpKZx090UE\">A Hundred People Coming Out of a Factory: The Movie!\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003C/ul>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Moving on: let's talk about women in technology. In 1984, 37% of CS degrees went to women. In 1998, it was 34%. In 2010-11, it was 12%.  Sara walks us through some of the stuff she's working on that will make technology visible and appealing to girls and young women (and wearable technology that isn't ugly).\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Practically, what can we as humans be doing now to help the situation better for women developers?\u003C/p>\n\u003Cul>\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Getting involved in projects that are already happening is a great way to start.\u003Ca href=\"http://www.girlswhocode.com/\">Girls Who Code\u003C/a> and \u003Ca href=\"http://www.blackgirlscode.com/\">Black Girls Code\u003C/a> are good resources\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"http://2013.jsconf.eu/\">JSConf EU\u003C/a> has started reaching out to women to find speakers and had a 50/50 conference.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>Sara says another important aspect of workplace diversity is keeping them on your team: praise them publicly, and redirect them privately.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>And get rid of the \u003Ca href=\"http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Feb-17.html\">Well, Actually\u003C/a> culture.\u003C/li>\n\u003C/ul>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>How can Stack Overflow specifically help the situation?\u003C/p>\n\u003Cul>\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>We currently do an okay job of creating a safe space for everyone and putting our emphasis on the content of a post instead of the person who posted it.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>The \"over-moderation\" we're often criticized accidentally helps a lot with these issues, too - it makes us focus only on merit.\u003C/p>\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>Sara says we should consider hiring beginner developers and training them ourselves if we aren't getting enough applications from female senior-level developers.\u003C/li>\n\u003C/ul>\u003C/li>\n\u003C/ul>\u003Cp>Thanks for listening to the Stack Exchange Podcast with special guest \u003Ca href=\"https://twitter.com/sarajchipps\">Sara J. 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