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We're not sure that's a real thing. (UPDATE: \u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Fwww.amazon.com\u002FRIC-920-Rock-Identification-Computer\u002Fdp\u002FB003ESXRP0\u002Fref=cm_cr_pr_product_top\">it is!\u003C\u002Fa>)\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003C\u002Ful>\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Facademia.stackexchange.com\u002F\">Academia\u003C\u002Fa> has graduated and has a beautiful new design, thanks to designer Stéphane Martin.\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003C\u002Ful>\u003Cp>\u003Cstrong>New Features\u003C\u002Fstrong>\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cul>\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>The iPhone app is coming! 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Careers 2.0 City Pages!\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003C\u002Ful>\u003Cp>\u003Cstrong>Community of the Week\u003C\u002Fstrong>: \u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Ftravel.stackexchange.com\u002F\">Travel\u003C\u002Fa>\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cul>\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Ftravel.stackexchange.com\u002Fquestions\u002F19808\u002Fwhy-do-people-on-airplanes-often-have-tomato-juice-as-a-drink\">Why do people on airplanes often have tomato juice as a drink?\u003C\u002Fa>\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Ftravel.stackexchange.com\u002Fquestions\u002F3080\u002Fok-were-all-adults-here-so-really-how-on-earth-should-i-use-a-squat-toilet\">OK we're all adults here, so really, how on earth should I use a squat toilet?\u003C\u002Fa>\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003Cli>\n\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Ftravel.stackexchange.com\u002Fquestions\u002F20207\u002Fwhy-are-airline-passengers-asked-to-lift-up-window-shades-during-takeoff-and-lan\">Why are airline passengers asked to lift up window shades during takeoff and landing?\u003C\u002Fa>\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Ftravel.stackexchange.com\u002Fquestions\u002F2539\u002Fhow-to-avoid-drinking-vodka\">How to avoid drinking vodka?\u003C\u002Fa>\u003C\u002Fli>\n\u003C\u002Ful>\u003Cp>And now we turn to our special guests! \u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Fstackexchange.com\u002Fusers\u002F21721\u002Fjin\">Jin Yang\u003C\u002Fa> is the founding member of the design team. \u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Fstackexchange.com\u002Fusers\u002F3815156\u002Fstephane-martin\">Stéphane Martin\u003C\u002Fa> is the French guy, and he's in the U.S. for the first time! \u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Fstackexchange.com\u002Fusers\u002F3426677\u002Fcourtny-cotten\">Courtny Cotten\u003C\u002Fa> is from Indiana, and \u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Fstackexchange.com\u002Fusers\u002F3109039\u002Fhynes\">Josh Hynes\u003C\u002Fa> is from Pennsylvania. Those places aren't as cool as France (apparently).\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>So, what does the design team do? Jin gives us his memorized elevator pitch for what Stack Exchange designers do all day. (It includes beer pong, but probably not in the way you're thinking.) Stéphane designed the \u003Ca href=\"http:\u002F\u002Facademia.stackexchange.com\u002F\">new look and feel for Academia\u003C\u002Fa> and tells us about the process creating the look and feel for that fully graduated community. Courtny's worked on the new Careers 2.0 city pages, and Careers search results. Josh worked on reporting, messaging for Careers, and the new user profile page on the Q&A sites. Both of them are working on new features for Careers right now. We also delve deeper into Stack Exchange design culture and history. Anecdotes! 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