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Elevators, toasters, and the birth of Java

Ryan sits down with James Gosling, creator of Java at Sun Microsystems, to talk about the early networking friction that drove the need for interconnectedness, the stringent reliability requirements of consumer electronics companies that inspired the Java virtual machine, and the evolution of garbage collectors that allow Java to handle large-scale concurrent memory management.

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The open-source ecosystem built to reduce tech debt

Today’s guest is Jonathan Schneider, co-founder and CEO of Moderne and creator of OpenRewrite, an open-source automated refactoring ecosystem for source code built to help developers eliminate tech debt. He tells Ben and Ryan about the challenges of automatic refactoring, how Java continues to evolve, and what kind of impact tech debt has on software development. Jonathan also describes the transition from open-source project to startup, why clean code is so important, and the role AI plays for developers right now.